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i'm back to romney. you write about that. >> [inaudible] >> i'm giving him a big head to match his body. good to see you guys. thank you for coming. [inaudible] >> thank you. thanks for coming. >> how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> i brought my friend, rick. he's a struggling democrat. >> on the dark side. >> i gave him your book. he made it to page 17. spent which one? >> your previous one. >> demonic. >> that's a good one. >> i'm working him. >> my name is random, but right this one of francis. >> this one is a fun book. >> i am looking forward to it. >> it starts with a whole series of crimes. i think it's more personal just have the first name, don't you? >> i agree. thank you. >> thank you. the reason i like this, you are very funny. >> thank you. >> you are my only hope. >> thank you. >> what a pleasure. i'm john. my dad came from new york. >> bless you. thank you, thank you. thank you. spent this is for my woman, to angela, please. she couldn't be here. she's opening up her shop. >> i hope we re
i'm back to romney. you write about that. >> [inaudible] >> i'm giving him a big head to match his body. good to see you guys. thank you for coming. [inaudible] >> thank you. thanks for coming. >> how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> i brought my friend, rick. he's a struggling democrat. >> on the dark side. >> i gave him your book. he made it to page 17. spent which one? >> your previous one. >> demonic. >> that's a good one....
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wo mom or dad or mitt romney or al gore. i mean, it's a a historicalr alm description if you look at what happened over the last century.i they stopped working when theyat had small children. y got marrie stopped working when they had small children and all these professions women when do which were considered men's professions. women have broken through every one of those barriers where men move a lot more slowly in what is acceptable for them to do. 1-woman who is a critic of mine agrees with this point and calls it the masculine mystique. what she is referring to in 1962, feminine mystique, we had this idea we had unnecessarily restricted women and they were allowed to do a few things to be considered feminine and maybe now doing a similar thing to men. we have restricted what is okay for men to do and be considered masculine and sweeney to expand at a little bit. initially i started thinking about this as an economic argument. in the year-and-a-half or two i have been interested in the cultural implications. or young peo
wo mom or dad or mitt romney or al gore. i mean, it's a a historicalr alm description if you look at what happened over the last century.i they stopped working when theyat had small children. y got marrie stopped working when they had small children and all these professions women when do which were considered men's professions. women have broken through every one of those barriers where men move a lot more slowly in what is acceptable for them to do. 1-woman who is a critic of mine agrees with...
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obamacare started with romney and was romney care before and that giving everyone access to health insurance is again one of the most important things we can do in this nation to a level the disparities of health and the disparity created by the lack of access to the health insurance. so, we have bipartisan support t
obamacare started with romney and was romney care before and that giving everyone access to health insurance is again one of the most important things we can do in this nation to a level the disparities of health and the disparity created by the lack of access to the health insurance. so, we have bipartisan support t
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and understanding romney's position -- >> i will offer some thoughts on that. i do know some of the people who are likely to end up in a romney administration on cyberissues. one of the advantages is you can -- you learn stuff, you are basically as henry kissinger said you are spending the stuff you use janelle and when that is gone so should you be. you come out and people tell you things that might be true as opposed to things they want you to believe and get the decision they want. they have come to a real appreciation of water remarkably penetrated country we have on the basis of cyberespionage and cyberattacks. and a more aggressive approach to this, and governor romney's statement labeling china a currency manipulator on day 1 suggests taking a tougher alignment with china may be an issue, is worth pursuing. we will see not an enormous change but probably a check up in preparation and confrontation, oversight. >> anyone else? >> i suspect on detention policy we won't see a lot of change. we did not see a lot of change from the bush and administration to t
and understanding romney's position -- >> i will offer some thoughts on that. i do know some of the people who are likely to end up in a romney administration on cyberissues. one of the advantages is you can -- you learn stuff, you are basically as henry kissinger said you are spending the stuff you use janelle and when that is gone so should you be. you come out and people tell you things that might be true as opposed to things they want you to believe and get the decision they want....
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. >> and the most famous today's mitt romney. does the romney family have interaction with the brigham young plan? >> i'm sure there are many descendants that know each other. the church is still a fairly tight knit institution and especially in utah it means a lot if you have ancestors that go way back to the pioneer era of the church. >> romney does as well. >> why did the family in that in mexico at one part? >> wealthy ended up in mexico because i believe mitt romney's great grandfather practiced marriage, she was a polygamist and later a part in the 1800's case serious effort to incarcerate more men men who produce polygamy and they went to mexico to escape persecution and i'm not an expert on the family history, but i believe mitt romney's great grandfather was among them. >> the wait until he had died before the out of the polygamists? >> it was out what putative is essentially made a federal crime in 1862. but the u.s. government doesn't really have the wherewithal to prosecute it until the 1880s and that happens to be af
. >> and the most famous today's mitt romney. does the romney family have interaction with the brigham young plan? >> i'm sure there are many descendants that know each other. the church is still a fairly tight knit institution and especially in utah it means a lot if you have ancestors that go way back to the pioneer era of the church. >> romney does as well. >> why did the family in that in mexico at one part? >> wealthy ended up in mexico because i believe mitt...
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president obama says 28, mitt romney says 25. if lowering marginal tax rates is good for corporations because of the incentive effect, aren't they good for individuals because of the incentive effect? because there's a commonality on the corporate rate, we might see something happen in 2013 regardless of who's elected. that's a wedge to start having a discussion on tax reform in general. and you mentioned the $1.5 trillion sort of deficit each year. for those new york times columnists who think that the stimulus bill we put forward wasn't big enough, $1.5 trillion extra spending a year, isn't that stimulus right there? how has that worked for us? >> you know, in any discussion about economic you quickly get to a chart, and we didn't treat any of you to a wonderful chart tonight. but i will mention one in answering this political will question. we had, you know, we had robert lucas do a chapter, and he had a very fascinating chart. he put on a line that says, you know, here's average gdp growth in the united states, and you could
president obama says 28, mitt romney says 25. if lowering marginal tax rates is good for corporations because of the incentive effect, aren't they good for individuals because of the incentive effect? because there's a commonality on the corporate rate, we might see something happen in 2013 regardless of who's elected. that's a wedge to start having a discussion on tax reform in general. and you mentioned the $1.5 trillion sort of deficit each year. for those new york times columnists who think...
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obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it i should say. there was one common ground they found, which may form a newspaper, the times dismissed as meaningless. well, it's not meaningless. if you're going to change the way because people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves. i do get the behavior that leads people to resort to guns in troubled neighborhoods of mercedes. a new yorker community cards people townspeople stash and fire hydrants were strictly and. you could do something about that. you could pass a law, for instance, that post a heavy penalty on using a community going. in 2006 race the minimum sentence for having a loaded illegal gun to three and a half years. i think you could rate even higher. that might make it clear to people who provide guns illegally to people who can't buy them because their names are on that list in washington and west virginia, and ics list. >> host: that's the list access when you do a background check. >> guest: right. often criminals get around not thanking somebody else today going for them
obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it i should say. there was one common ground they found, which may form a newspaper, the times dismissed as meaningless. well, it's not meaningless. if you're going to change the way because people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves. i do get the behavior that leads people to resort to guns in troubled neighborhoods of mercedes. a new yorker community cards people townspeople stash and fire hydrants were strictly and. you could do...
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obama and romney can close, they touched on it and that the date and there was common ground they found which my former newspaper at the times dismissed as sort of meaningless, well let's not meaningless if you are going to change the way because people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves, how do you get at the feeder that leads people to resort to guns and troubled neighborhoods in the city's and new york there are communities people's - and fire hydrants were street lamps well, you could do something like that, you could pass a law and impose a kettle heavy penalty. they raised the minimum sentence for having a loaded illegal gun on you to three and a half years i think you could raise it even higher and that might make it clean to people that provide guns illegal to people that might buy them because their names are on that list in washington and in west virginia in the list. >> host: and that is the list that is access when you do a background check. >> guest: criminals get around that by not getting someone else to buy a gun for them. that is another thing i think ought to
obama and romney can close, they touched on it and that the date and there was common ground they found which my former newspaper at the times dismissed as sort of meaningless, well let's not meaningless if you are going to change the way because people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves, how do you get at the feeder that leads people to resort to guns and troubled neighborhoods in the city's and new york there are communities people's - and fire hydrants were street lamps well, you...
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obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it. >> host: it came up in one debate. >> guest: there was some common ground they found, which my former newspaper, the times in an editorial said sort of, it was meaningless. well, it's not meaningless. if you're going to change the way people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves, how do you get it to behavior that leads people to troubled neighborhoods in our cities? in new york there are community guns that peoples -- and fire hydrants or streetlamps. you could do something about that. you could pass a law and impose a heavy penalty on using a community can. new york in 2006 raise the minimum sentence for using, having a loaded illegal gun on you to, three and half years. i think you could make it even higher and that might make it clear to people who provide guns illegally to people who can't buy them because their names are on that list in washington and west virginia. and ics list. >> host: that is the list that is accessed when you do a background check
obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it. >> host: it came up in one debate. >> guest: there was some common ground they found, which my former newspaper, the times in an editorial said sort of, it was meaningless. well, it's not meaningless. if you're going to change the way people commit gun violence, not the guns themselves, how do you get it to behavior that leads people to troubled neighborhoods in our cities? in new york there are community guns that peoples --...
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word is not romney, it is republican. this is about a party that is still to become a modern, effective party. part of the answer is suggested the republican national committee works to create a set of debates hosted by the republicans do we tell the media, why would you want -- i participated in the head every time here at the reagan library, but the truth is you ended up in the reagan library with one of the examples. left-wing moderators did their centrist because everybody they know us to their left. [laughter] these are not people who are biased. they represent the center for america because every round they go to cocktail parties at this literally got far to the left. so if you were to go back and analyze questions were putting together right now fascinating case study, which some of you will remember richard stephanopoulos asked this question about the 1963 tidwell versus connecticut supreme court suit involving contraception. i guarantee you, because i was there. every republican candidate and a debate has gone wh
word is not romney, it is republican. this is about a party that is still to become a modern, effective party. part of the answer is suggested the republican national committee works to create a set of debates hosted by the republicans do we tell the media, why would you want -- i participated in the head every time here at the reagan library, but the truth is you ended up in the reagan library with one of the examples. left-wing moderators did their centrist because everybody they know us to...
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do you know this fellow romney? [laughter] what you know about romney? have you met him? well, i'm still asking these questions all these years later. [laughter] [applause] we have a tough job up here tonight. the kind time the presses in on us tonight. i will be the best to be the kind of aggressive moderator that you may not have seen on television. [laughter] [applause] last night, in fact. [laughter] [applause] we are going to introduce this fascinating collection of more than 245 hours of tapes plus 17 hours of did the bulls and telephone conversations. then we will play some. we will play some of them briefly, and we won't have time to discuss them in depth, but we will have time to have a little discussion after each day. with that, let's get started. mr. putman, set the scene. how long has the library and in possession of these? how did this happen? and what was done -- describe the process we have done to prepare them for the public use? >> well, let me violate your first rule right away. i also want to thank caroline kennedy for all of the initiatives that she h
do you know this fellow romney? [laughter] what you know about romney? have you met him? well, i'm still asking these questions all these years later. [laughter] [applause] we have a tough job up here tonight. the kind time the presses in on us tonight. i will be the best to be the kind of aggressive moderator that you may not have seen on television. [laughter] [applause] last night, in fact. [laughter] [applause] we are going to introduce this fascinating collection of more than 245 hours of...
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in this case, mitt romney just passed it by. the sentiments are so strong you don't want to confront or engage that. he said when asked by a reporter later to be true of course not. third, house republican budget committee is now proceeding to do two things. one is to insist on lower overall discretionary name, then was agreed to in the law that came it the end of that dreadful process of holding the debt ceiling hostage. so unilaterally, they declared that a floor for kind and not a ceiling. and now it's a way of avoiding sequestration of the defense budget had proposed a really remarkable set of additional cup acts and means tested programs of one sort or another. i even saw the columnist in this lucid analytic reporters, david rogers at "politico" show his emotion in the course of writing about that. and of course we had yesterday a successful republican filibuster on the senate democratic plan for extending a lower student loan rate and financing it in a particular way. i noted in "new york times" that this is the 21st succe
in this case, mitt romney just passed it by. the sentiments are so strong you don't want to confront or engage that. he said when asked by a reporter later to be true of course not. third, house republican budget committee is now proceeding to do two things. one is to insist on lower overall discretionary name, then was agreed to in the law that came it the end of that dreadful process of holding the debt ceiling hostage. so unilaterally, they declared that a floor for kind and not a ceiling....
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mitt romney spent six years running for president. he is, he was very good at what he was very good at which was raising money. which is how he had earned a living. i mean, he was a finance guy. he'd spent his swire career at bain -- his entire career at bain being a finance guy. they got together, they talked finance stuff. it all sounded good to them. they said, hey, this is our kind of guy. he's a sincere, honest guy. frankly, he's a smart guy. mitt romney's not -- you know, i'm not going to get sucked into some, he lost an election which i would l argue any of us would have had a hard time winning because we were in aver overmatch. -- overmatch. we don't understand this yet. the obama people never quit. they kept offices open in '09, in '10, in '11. i think there were 53 offices in north carolina alone. and this is why i'm doing this six month study at gingrich productions which i've entitled lessons to learn. we don't have lessons learned right now. we don't know what we're talking about. when you see these guys on tv who wasted
mitt romney spent six years running for president. he is, he was very good at what he was very good at which was raising money. which is how he had earned a living. i mean, he was a finance guy. he'd spent his swire career at bain -- his entire career at bain being a finance guy. they got together, they talked finance stuff. it all sounded good to them. they said, hey, this is our kind of guy. he's a sincere, honest guy. frankly, he's a smart guy. mitt romney's not -- you know, i'm not going to...
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obama and romney came close to it. they touched on it, i should say -- >> host: came up in one debate. >> guest: there was some common ground, they found, which my fohave er newspaper, the times,n an editorial, dismissed as sort of meaningless. well, it's not mea-nngless. if youetse going to change the way -- because people commit gun the guns nt themselves. how do you get at the behavior that leads people to use guns in troubled neighborhoods in our cities in new york there are coing nity guns that people sh in fire hydrants or street lamps. well, you can do something about that. you can pass a law, for instance, that made it -- imposed a heavy penalatr on usig a commu-natr gun, and the u.s. did in 2006 raised the minimum sentence for using of -- having a loaded illegal gun on you to three and a half yeais m. i think you can raise it even higher. that might make it clear to people who provide guns illegally to people who can't buy them because their names are on the list in washington in west and ing gi-n bar the nics
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if there is president romney i am not sure he will continue the practice. but hope and i have pre-existing relationships with the president. i would say he said dido. she will do a great job. but what happens if they introduced? let's do this. hope this book is. to say there is this backstage to videographer. horrible. horrible. there is a rule when you make a movie and a comedy if the actor does not get the joke you cannot use it. never. if you do not get the joke it will not come across. if they don't see what you we're doing war be something else then you end up with a candidate like john kerry who is impressive who pretends to be the president instead of himself and is punished by the electorate. we will end on a partisan note. i like that. this was fun. think you. [applause] [applause] >> good evening welcome to the schomburg center to have rachel and all of you here come on this summer evening is getting hot out there. brace yourself. we have a special treat to as you have read about the new book "american tapestry" we learn a lot about that only the
if there is president romney i am not sure he will continue the practice. but hope and i have pre-existing relationships with the president. i would say he said dido. she will do a great job. but what happens if they introduced? let's do this. hope this book is. to say there is this backstage to videographer. horrible. horrible. there is a rule when you make a movie and a comedy if the actor does not get the joke you cannot use it. never. if you do not get the joke it will not come across. if...
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so you could have an affluent dad like bill gates does, like mitt romney does, but still think of yourself as self-made because you didn't inherit the business that made you a multimillionaire from your dad. and that's particularly important playing into how they think of themselves in the world. it's important right now for these guys to be really numerate. one of the things i found really interesting and quite sort of international is this is really the age of mastery of numbers. and my favorite example of this, you know, we're kind of -- that seems to make sense when you think of the silicon valley guys or the wall street guys, but i'll bet you if you sort of in your mind's eye are imagining the russian oligarchs, you know, you think a guy in some fancy italian suit with a mole on one side and guys with guns on the other side, and this is true. [laughter] but he also probably has a ph.d. in math or physics, you know? even those guys. and this is true also of the chinese, of the indians. it's also a really, really global group. and this is another key characteristic, something which is q
so you could have an affluent dad like bill gates does, like mitt romney does, but still think of yourself as self-made because you didn't inherit the business that made you a multimillionaire from your dad. and that's particularly important playing into how they think of themselves in the world. it's important right now for these guys to be really numerate. one of the things i found really interesting and quite sort of international is this is really the age of mastery of numbers. and my...
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win -- from the romney is size. and we were able to win. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent against democratic republican super pacs. there were democratic super pacs as well. the money was spent on their side. almost all of their targets, almost all the candidates lost. i do not think that money -- that put enormous pressure on the democrat -- democratic match it. it was more so in congressional races -- people gave less information and were more subject to being influenced by ads. we saw some races -- quite a bit of money was spent against bill foster. he won overwhelmingly. $6 million of super pac money was spent against him. tammy duckworth in her race -- she was still able to win. i do not think it is a healthy thing for the body politic to have people writing $10 million, $20 million, $30 million, $40 million checks. but it is a reality we may have to live with if we cannot change it. we should try and change it through whatever means are appropriate or available. the supreme court -- the supreme court changes over time, they
win -- from the romney is size. and we were able to win. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent against democratic republican super pacs. there were democratic super pacs as well. the money was spent on their side. almost all of their targets, almost all the candidates lost. i do not think that money -- that put enormous pressure on the democrat -- democratic match it. it was more so in congressional races -- people gave less information and were more subject to being influenced by ads. we...
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that was bigger than anything that mitt romney did. that is the most memorable event from a convention that i believe not only did mitt romney stand up but also paul ryan and several hispanics did an excellent job to present a conservative reason to oust president obama. >> nobody remembers the flap over god was going to be on the platform. clint eastwood got all the attention. >> there is a certain rule here. republicans to have learn it. if the whole essence is a tightly choreographed event, then you do that. you put things to help you better, rubio was terrific and videos of the families, those were moving and nobody saw them because they were in the wrong hour, in the middle of it. don't say to clint eastwood, don't go out and wing it. there has been considerable cottage industry of finger pointing. most of loyal campaign ads are blaming romney himself. >> i it was struck by tom hamburger's piece that called the campaign campaign malpractice. there were so many mistakes it was obvious to the press. the republicans kept saying it wa
that was bigger than anything that mitt romney did. that is the most memorable event from a convention that i believe not only did mitt romney stand up but also paul ryan and several hispanics did an excellent job to present a conservative reason to oust president obama. >> nobody remembers the flap over god was going to be on the platform. clint eastwood got all the attention. >> there is a certain rule here. republicans to have learn it. if the whole essence is a tightly...
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are trying to blame in all on romney. it reminds me of what we democrats winter after 1972. the late and beloved note george mcgovern no longer with u was blamed for the landslide a 72. we lost 80, 84, in '88 and they're still blaming the candid it's. it was not the candid, and it was not the way he communicated. it was the message. it was -- it took bill clinton to redo the map and barack obamacare continued that legacy. the reason why the hispanic vote went for broke, is because bit romney made him look liberal n immigration policy. did not follow george bush's policies and innovation, or you might ve been president. it s about content, not the communication. lou: is not one to answer my question on the racial divide. i will try with you. >> well, i think the numbers speak for themselves. the fact that the electorate this time, the change in the percentages among white voters. if the romney campaign got l, the percenges they thought they needed to we might be talking about a different result . much bigger story tothe fa
are trying to blame in all on romney. it reminds me of what we democrats winter after 1972. the late and beloved note george mcgovern no longer with u was blamed for the landslide a 72. we lost 80, 84, in '88 and they're still blaming the candid it's. it was not the candid, and it was not the way he communicated. it was the message. it was -- it took bill clinton to redo the map and barack obamacare continued that legacy. the reason why the hispanic vote went for broke, is because bit romney...
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all these things that they are accusing rightly or wrongly mitt romney for. so a very negative campaign and a very unusual one or for david axlerod to run. >> host: you write, edward klein, that what is invariably true about our president is that the most successful ones grow in office. can the same be said of barack obama? has he learned from his mistakes? the answer to these questions will strike many readers of this book as all too clear. i can just hear them chanting in unison: no, no, no. >> guest: well, look at john f. kennedy who came to the oval office truly unprepared to be president and made many mistakes in the first, first year or more including the bay of pigs and other mistakes that he made. it is now generally conceded that kennedy by the time he was assassinated had grown in office considerably and understood how to deal with the military, how to deal with congress, how to deal with, um, conflicting advisers and so forth. i don't want see the happening with barack obama -- i don't see this happening with barack obama. he has not brought in, de
all these things that they are accusing rightly or wrongly mitt romney for. so a very negative campaign and a very unusual one or for david axlerod to run. >> host: you write, edward klein, that what is invariably true about our president is that the most successful ones grow in office. can the same be said of barack obama? has he learned from his mistakes? the answer to these questions will strike many readers of this book as all too clear. i can just hear them chanting in unison: no,...
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romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to strongly reconsider. last summer, his wife, ann, told nbc's natalie morales, she urged her husband to enter the 2012 race despise his failed bid in 2008. >> i was the first one to say this time you you have to do this again. yes, it was gonna be painful. yes, it was gonna be hard. yes, we might fail. is but we had to go forward. >> reporter: a discussion of desire and defeat still lingering. ron mott, nbc news, boston. >>> we turn overseas to an awful scene in syria. dozens of people were killed, some of them children and many more hurt in an air strike while they waited to buy bread at a bakery. it appears to be one of the deadliest aerial attacks in that country's nearly two-year-long civil war. >>> and in india today there were mass protests in new dellism police used tear gas and water cannons on thousands were ho were demanding justice for a young woman who was raped and beaten by a group of men on a bus. the attack took place a week ago and it sparked dives rage across india and demands for authorit
romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to strongly reconsider. last summer, his wife, ann, told nbc's natalie morales, she urged her husband to enter the 2012 race despise his failed bid in 2008. >> i was the first one to say this time you you have to do this again. yes, it was gonna be painful. yes, it was gonna be hard. yes, we might fail. is but we had to go forward. >> reporter: a discussion of desire and defeat still lingering. ron mott, nbc news, boston....
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. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people. >> it's ridiculous for people to purchase a gun. >> did you get up this morning and have a quick -- >> i probably did, i probably did. >> "piers morgan tonight: the newsmakers" starts now. >>> good evening. one of the great things about my job is that every night i get to sit down with movers and shakers,...
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ruin the romney. >> oh for sure. >> romney was nowhere to be seen and he had been -- he had the big mo going in. best political theater u. n. ambassador susan rice spinning the benghazi attack. she ended the soap opera with letter withdrawing from her petition for the united states. >> that's the worst? worst is my friend clint eastwood. in the empty chair. >> now wait a minute. >> brought it out -- >> a lot of people liked that. >> it was okay -- i mean it was interesting. >> not good -- >> it blotted out all the film of the great things mitt had done. >> eleanor? >> that's right. okay worst political theater i'm more serious. the senate republicans voting down the u. n. treaty on people with disabilities after senator bob dole made an appearance pleading for passage in his wheelchair. and they just ignore -- they set a low and they ignored him. >> susan? >> i'm going to say again the fiscal cliff because fun the watch but frightening for taxpayers and damaging -- >> ence. if you can cover this up. >> i can guarantee -- >> i agree with -- i agree with you. the fiscal cliff is the wors
ruin the romney. >> oh for sure. >> romney was nowhere to be seen and he had been -- he had the big mo going in. best political theater u. n. ambassador susan rice spinning the benghazi attack. she ended the soap opera with letter withdrawing from her petition for the united states. >> that's the worst? worst is my friend clint eastwood. in the empty chair. >> now wait a minute. >> brought it out -- >> a lot of people liked that. >> it was okay -- i...
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i believe the reason to that goes to something that mitt romney's brother said about him, scott romney. the older brother of mitt romney told pbs this year about mitt, i think he believes he's the only person in this position who can straighten out this country. there was this belief that mitt had that it was self-evident that he must be president, that he's the only one that can save the country from barack obama. and it was evident in the fact that it didn't bother him to change everything about himself, everything about his past, everything about his former beliefs to repudiate his governorship, whatever it took, because he had this belief, as did ann romney, as did his kids, that he was desperate to become our president. >> 700 nationwide that romney had for a presidential campaign just kind of a mazes me. i want to go on to another thing in the globe. it's beth meyers. she was worried about the campaign's appeal to women voters. she says to the globe, i wish i had expressed my deep concern more vociferously at that point. this was may/june when they really went on the offense, mey
i believe the reason to that goes to something that mitt romney's brother said about him, scott romney. the older brother of mitt romney told pbs this year about mitt, i think he believes he's the only person in this position who can straighten out this country. there was this belief that mitt had that it was self-evident that he must be president, that he's the only one that can save the country from barack obama. and it was evident in the fact that it didn't bother him to change everything...
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romney, mr. obama, prefer the republicans and the democrats. for the mass of people sent the system cannot be debated because everyone agrees, then we focus elsewhere on things like whether you can have a gun in the back of your truck or whether you can approve of being marriage or a whole host of other issues whose importance on not disputing, but are issues that get us away from this thorny problem of how the economics and politics are articulated where they're is a desire of those who run the society that that simply be ruled out of order. >> the corporations that dominate what most people in this country see here, perfecting the art of propaganda and manufacturing consent well simultaneously criminalizing dissent. i want you to talk about the very origins of this which could be traced to the much revered and in my view much overrated founding fathers, the political rally. people talk about them in hushed tones. let's hear what they have to say about these kinds of issues. james madison who wrote with hamilton the federalist papers, principa
romney, mr. obama, prefer the republicans and the democrats. for the mass of people sent the system cannot be debated because everyone agrees, then we focus elsewhere on things like whether you can have a gun in the back of your truck or whether you can approve of being marriage or a whole host of other issues whose importance on not disputing, but are issues that get us away from this thorny problem of how the economics and politics are articulated where they're is a desire of those who run...
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essentially wiped out the romney speech. i don't know if anyone remembers the romney speech. all they remember is eastwood. that is what tagg is talking about. if you run for 60 years in exhausting and degrading for size, which is what it is, you want the presidency. i think what he meant is that there were aspects o it showing leg, showing your past, showing your iner life that he did not like. he kept that out of the campaign. it hurt him. demonized mercilessly by the other side. >> that convention snafu exacerbated by the obama campaign frontloaded a lot of advertisement to label romney in states. >> can i jump in here? a lot of this, particularly the piece this weekend, superficial as if a differently run campaign could overcome a lot of republican problems. i was at the harvard kennedy school this semester. we had a debrief of both campaign, romney and obama campaign. tell you what the obama campaign people think. they thought that the approach to hispanics, the idea of self-deportation was kill every. they thought that they had had a very good strategy of being out in t
essentially wiped out the romney speech. i don't know if anyone remembers the romney speech. all they remember is eastwood. that is what tagg is talking about. if you run for 60 years in exhausting and degrading for size, which is what it is, you want the presidency. i think what he meant is that there were aspects o it showing leg, showing your past, showing your iner life that he did not like. he kept that out of the campaign. it hurt him. demonized mercilessly by the other side. >>...
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i want to know what happened to in romney -- ann romney. it seems that after the convention, she pretty much vanished, so i would like to hear your take on that. guest: i actually talked to a lot of staffers about her and her role in the campaign, and what i was told is that there were some advertisements cut of annm -- ann romney. she did not do well with voters. what the romney folks told me is that it was not believable that this belt up -- that the spouse of a canada would be a good test of fire to that canada because it is not believable. of course, his bows would say these nice things about him, because she is his spouse, but it was striking to me that his wife never appeared in television advertisements during the course of the general election campaign. we were always curious about that, and a lot of republicans were wondering where she was. we found out that they cut them because she did not test well. guest: and the conversation of her illness is when folks got to see the discussion around the real mitt romney. nobody really talke
i want to know what happened to in romney -- ann romney. it seems that after the convention, she pretty much vanished, so i would like to hear your take on that. guest: i actually talked to a lot of staffers about her and her role in the campaign, and what i was told is that there were some advertisements cut of annm -- ann romney. she did not do well with voters. what the romney folks told me is that it was not believable that this belt up -- that the spouse of a canada would be a good test of...
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tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a half covering the romney campaign. >> in between campaigns romney was definitely stung by the loss, but he never really took his eye off the ball. he wrote a book about his own personal politics and he used his pac to fund other republican candidates and that's the kind of thing you do if you think you might run again, keep your options open. >> the next president of the united states. >> reporter: if he was reluctant to run, mr. romney seems to have been under some pressure at home to seriously rally recover. last summer ann urged her husband to enter the race despite his failed bid
tagg romney said he wanted to be press less than anyone else in the world. if he could have found someone else to make the run, he would have stepped aside. >> i do know that there were very serious discussions and concerns at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition and saw it was pretty weak and his family pushed him to say that he would be the best person given the way the field has taken shape. >> nbc's garrett hak spent nearly a year and a...
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the romney folks are never able to recover. the definition that the obama people had established with the dominant one in the campaign. host: this is from "the boston sunday globe." two days before election day and then the piece goes on to say, looking back, to your point, the candidate never defining himself. and then overestimating his ground game. on the ground game side, they were worth about their own bravado about their own organization. part of it was, i think, a genuine ignorance about what president obama had going on. the romney campaign had a triple a round game. obama campaigned out a ground game that was led the 1927 yankees. it was up against a perhaps all- time great ground game. i do not think the romney folks appreciated that. a lot of the post-mortem pieces that we have done, talking about the obama ground game -- part of it is self-serving, as it masks some of their own problems -- but still, you have to tip your hat to the obama folks. >guest: mitt romney and his campaign spent $100 million in the state of
the romney folks are never able to recover. the definition that the obama people had established with the dominant one in the campaign. host: this is from "the boston sunday globe." two days before election day and then the piece goes on to say, looking back, to your point, the candidate never defining himself. and then overestimating his ground game. on the ground game side, they were worth about their own bravado about their own organization. part of it was, i think, a genuine...
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no one was predicting that sort of the republican strategy for securing a romney victory would come to grief so kind of spectacularly. i mean, i'm telling you. even the communities who came out to vote, i think, were shocked by their own numbers and by their own power. i mean, when you look at the cuban community in florida, a community that has historically voted super conservative and suddenly see an entirely new generation voting, and you see those numbers that they put up for obama. it was extraordinary. and i think that a lot of folks have very poor sense of what's happening in this country on the ground. i mean, they're kind of all the way up here, whether it's age, class, institutional divisions. and they don't really have a real kind of panoramic or even a deep view of the real sort of granular shifts that have occurred in this country, that have been occurring. >> if you took that grand narrative and reduced it to a very short story, what is it? what's the plot? >> i think the plot is that there is an enormous gap between the way the country presents itself and imagines itself
no one was predicting that sort of the republican strategy for securing a romney victory would come to grief so kind of spectacularly. i mean, i'm telling you. even the communities who came out to vote, i think, were shocked by their own numbers and by their own power. i mean, when you look at the cuban community in florida, a community that has historically voted super conservative and suddenly see an entirely new generation voting, and you see those numbers that they put up for obama. it was...
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give it to the twin pillars of politics, the relentless candidates, barack obama and mitt romney, for waging the best and worst presidential campaign of the year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> best because it was a time for riveting battle for control of the nation. worst because it often became a war of cheap shots, questionable facts, and everything else that just exhausts voters. >> i don't think there's anything else that immediately so completely sucked up all of the energy or oxygen in the air. >> worst republican roulette, the party primary that seemed to have a new up and coming favorite every ten minutes. rick perry, herman cain, michele bachmann, newt gingrich, rick santorum. >> what a freak show, right? that whole primary season, but it was fun. it was democracy in all its messiness and glory, with issues but also some crazy stuff. ♪ america >> it was fascinating to watch the party sort of trying to define itself. >> what do you want me to tell romney? >> worst empty chair supposedly occupied by the president. >> i can't tell him to do that. can't d
give it to the twin pillars of politics, the relentless candidates, barack obama and mitt romney, for waging the best and worst presidential campaign of the year. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> best because it was a time for riveting battle for control of the nation. worst because it often became a war of cheap shots, questionable facts, and everything else that just exhausts voters. >> i don't think there's anything else that immediately so...
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[applause] ♪ >> i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. so i want to say first that it's such an honor to have been able to be in the same room last night with the finalist who don't need to tell them what extraordinary company they are. this book was done as a labor of love for my husband, who brought me in as a writer, brought me into a rope that i didn't know and made me believe that the stories there could be told. but the work itself was the product of some extraordinary women. it was who believed in me in this book and gave of their time to do it and that is kate medina and london king and all of these ferocious women at random house. i am grateful to them. [applause] i also have to say that this book would not be possible without two other extraordinary women. they are my translators for this project and they risked more than i did to tell the stories. finally, i'm grateful to the courage of the people who allow their stories to be told. if this means anything, i think it's this. that small stories in so-called places matter and one
[applause] ♪ >> i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. so i want to say first that it's such an honor to have been able to be in the same room last night with the finalist who don't need to tell them what extraordinary company they are. this book was done as a labor of love for my husband, who brought me in as a writer, brought me into a rope that i didn't know and made me believe that the stories there could be told. but the work itself was the product of some...
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dagen: what went wrong with the romney campaign? you will not believe what his son has to say about his father's reluctance to even run for president in the first place. dennis: plus, a dentist fires an assistant for being too attractive. the iowa supreme court rules it legal. will this spread? dagen: on this final shopping day before christmas, it's been a rough one this holiday season, stores don't seem that busy. dagen: merry christmas and it is all about stocks now and every 15 minutes even on christmas eve. nicole, stocks still in the red. nicole: that's right. we're seeing the dow right now at 13,142. that's a loss of about 1/3 of 1%. much like the s&p 500 and the tech heavy nasdaq composite, all three are pulling back a little bit, when you speak of the broader markets, though, when you look at the dow, we have been up four of the last five trading weeks. the trend has been to the upside. but still concerns now from washington about washington, about the fiscal cliff, traders of course don't think anything is getting settled
dagen: what went wrong with the romney campaign? you will not believe what his son has to say about his father's reluctance to even run for president in the first place. dennis: plus, a dentist fires an assistant for being too attractive. the iowa supreme court rules it legal. will this spread? dagen: on this final shopping day before christmas, it's been a rough one this holiday season, stores don't seem that busy. dagen: merry christmas and it is all about stocks now and every 15 minutes even...
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. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his dad's initial reluctance to make a second white house run. in a story published in the "boston globe" tagg romney said his father, quote, wanted to be president less than anyone. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. "boston globe" reporter michael krenish interviewed tagg romney. >> i know there were serious discussions at the time before he decided to run and he looked at the field of competition
. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his...
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romney ran a great campaign. i think he was -- he's not a charismatic person. i think a karz charismatic repun would have won. i don't think we had a great platform. we didn't invite the hispanics in like we should have. but it will change next time. maybe we'll get at better candidate. meantime, life goes on and little by little our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long and troubled race? re-election. >>> coming up, high rollers, honey boo boo and the prince who had no pants. when all the best, all the worst rolls on. ♪ why should saturday night have all the fun? get two times the points on dining in restaurants, with chase sapphire preferred. good afternoon. chase sapphire. (push button tone) this is stacy from springfield. oh whoa. hello? yes. i didn't realize i'd be talking to an actual person. you don't need to press "0," i'm here. reach a person, not a prompt whenever you call chase sapphire. with olay, here's how. new regenerist eye and lash duo the cre
romney ran a great campaign. i think he was -- he's not a charismatic person. i think a karz charismatic repun would have won. i don't think we had a great platform. we didn't invite the hispanics in like we should have. but it will change next time. maybe we'll get at better candidate. meantime, life goes on and little by little our problems will get solved. >> and come election night, at least one of barack obama's problems was solved. best end for democrats to a long and troubled race?...
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and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in florida and the next morning go on a cable news show and say something equally shocking. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> yeah. for me, the 47% video was so -- i mean, it was shocking in its brutal honesty but also how he was able to deride half the country. literally half the kcountry he said, well, i don't have to worry about those folks, they're free loaders lack iing for a handout. they don't know how to learn personal responsibility. and think about these are the people he, one, hopes to lead and, two, you would think he would want their votes. and the next d
and then romney came out -- >> and then romney talked. >> with his own words, revealed in september, seemingly and vividly confirming in his own words through his own mouth caught on videotape, all of the worst stereotypes and kas caricatures. >> jonathan capehart, i mean, 47% we focus on that, we forget this is a guy that gets -- the greatest hits for democratic ad makers. i like firing people. do you remember that one? ten others just like that. he won a big victory in...
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and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even lower. we need to teach her how to walk. she is taking up valuable cart space. aren't you, honey? [ male announcer ] it's clearance time! up to 50% off seasonal decor. 50% off toys. apparel $3 to $9. walmart. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriag
and the romney campaign's response was not to find other workers who would attest to romney's management, it was to find ceos who would talk about how great a guy he was. you can't imagine a more ham-handed response. >>> coming up, the most thought-provoking must-read opinion pages of the year. and later, with what would lyndon? our interview with steven spielberg about his new film on the 16th president. we're back in a moment. oh it's clearance time! yeah, our low prices are even...
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when mitt romney says, i like to fire people, that revealed a mindset. when he talked about 47%, it revealed the mindset. >> that one sound bite that we can then play over and over and over again. >> but what steve said is they're so scripted, well, they're not so scripted until they're not. okay. and they don't script their ad libs. okay. and the ones that get in trouble with etch a sketch, that wasn't romney, but it was one of his people and the others who get in trouble like hillary rose, they make these gaffes or the candidates go off message and start ad libbing and they are not prepared to do that and it's the one sound bite that you're looking for. >> well, that's true. don't look at me looking for it. but it's driven, right, howie, by social media. so many people are dual screening and twitter is 140 characters and you want to be snappy and you want people to think, they're clever. you take big bird and binders full of women and you run with it. >> i was at the second presidential debate and i had my head down that binders full of women trying to
when mitt romney says, i like to fire people, that revealed a mindset. when he talked about 47%, it revealed the mindset. >> that one sound bite that we can then play over and over and over again. >> but what steve said is they're so scripted, well, they're not so scripted until they're not. okay. and they don't script their ad libs. okay. and the ones that get in trouble with etch a sketch, that wasn't romney, but it was one of his people and the others who get in trouble like...
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they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the iellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentati -- ryan was so identified with the privatization and a voucher for medicare idea, instead of talking about the economy, which is where they wanted it to play out, we had a lengthy debate about the economy, about medicare. i cannot think that was to their benefit. our numbers amongenior citizens were probably higher than we anticipated. >> you are noted for the axelrod never as smarte as you think you are. >> you're never as smart as when you win and you're never as dumb as when you lose. >> we talked about some of the shortcomings of the
they never fully embraced romney. i felt that the ryan choice was in part an effort to make sure that that yvette went well. t went well.even t it played in closer to the house republicans who -- congress was pulling 9%, 10%. every poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4%. so to pick someone who he identified as the iellectual leader of the republican party was clearly a very significant leader of that caucus and was surprising to me. brian was so identified with the presentati -- ryan...
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new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is.
new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over...
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forever: life, death and hope in a mumbai -- [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> um, i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. [laughter] so i just, i want to say, first, that this, that it is such an honor to have been able to be in this same room last night with the finalists who don't need me to tell them what extraordinary company they are. um, this book was done as labor of love for my husband who brought me in as a poverty writer, brought me into a world that i didn't know and made me believe that the stories there could be told. um, but the work itself was the product of some extraordinary women who believed in me in this book and gave me the time to do it, and that's binky urban and kate medina and london king and all these ferocious women at random house. and i am grateful to them. [applause] i also have to say that this book would not be possible without two other extraordinary women which are they're -- [inaudible] who are my translators on this project and who risked more than i did to tell these stories. and finally i am grateful to the courage of the people who
forever: life, death and hope in a mumbai -- [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> um, i find myself like mitt romney the other night without a speech. [laughter] so i just, i want to say, first, that this, that it is such an honor to have been able to be in this same room last night with the finalists who don't need me to tell them what extraordinary company they are. um, this book was done as labor of love for my husband who brought me in as a poverty writer, brought me into a world that i...
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romney called his remarks completely wrong. they also caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of the election. on the flip side -- >> he's going to be the next vice president of the united states. >> romney's dp day may have been the best moment of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. how many moems are there in an hour and a half? the president lost all of them in the first debate. the picture tells the story of a panicked man and providing an opening for romney. and finally, the top three moments of the election best described as history-making politics. >> a supreme court decision upholding the constitutionality of obama care. if that doesn't strike you as political, consider what would have happened on the campaign trail if the high court had struck down the president's signature first-term achievement. >> at a certain point, i have concluded that for me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get mar
romney called his remarks completely wrong. they also caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of the election. on the flip side -- >> he's going to be the next vice president of the united states. >> romney's dp day may have been the best moment of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. how many moems are there in an hour and a half? the president lost all of them in the first debate. the picture tells the story of a panicked...
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the guy who had the romney/ryan logo tatteed on his face. ever hear of bumper stickers? best fund-raising. both sides stuffed their piggy banks until they squealed. tot total amount raised by the parties and their supporters, nearly $6 billion or enough to hire 3,600 extra teachers for ten years. just saying. worst running meaates, other republican candidates who crushed their hopes about taking the senate with comments about rape and abortion. worst thing in all of politics once thagain this year, the unid states congress, which according to gallup americans trust just slightly more than car dealers. >> the good thing for congress is there's nowhere to go but up. >> best way to keep the polls going down. that delay tactic called sequestration. neither party wanted to address the tough issues before the election, so they kicked the can down the road right to the fiscal cliff, and of course, they blamed each other. best supporters of gay rights, state victories and supreme court consideration for same-sex marriage, the election of the first openly lesbian u.s. senator, an
the guy who had the romney/ryan logo tatteed on his face. ever hear of bumper stickers? best fund-raising. both sides stuffed their piggy banks until they squealed. tot total amount raised by the parties and their supporters, nearly $6 billion or enough to hire 3,600 extra teachers for ten years. just saying. worst running meaates, other republican candidates who crushed their hopes about taking the senate with comments about rape and abortion. worst thing in all of politics once thagain this...